Marianne Kreul

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  • "I have already mentioned 1968. By then, of course, we could go to Czech again without fear, even earlier. And because I have always had an emotional attachment to Bohemia, thanks to my mother and so on, we enjoyed many holidays in Bohemia and also in Moravia and Slovakia. I was once told that I knew the Czech Republic better than Germany, because we always went there on holiday. And also in August 1968 we went there, but this time nowhere far. We went on holiday to Doksy - that beautiful lake - with a family of friends to whom we always raved about how beautiful it was in Bohemia. Two families were there on holiday and we experienced first-hand the invasion of Czechoslovakia by Russian troops. Now two questions arose: how will the Czechs feel about this? And I can tell you one thing, we were sitting together by the radio. And we were watching and listening, and they were not happy about the whole situation. The other German family that we were friends with - I remember very well that person saying, 'Now we have to be ashamed of being German again,' because they [the soldiers] came from Germany... The background for the invasion, it was all in Germany. And the second question we had was, how are we going to get home now? We had two cars, we were four adults and four children. And it was the Czechs who helped us get home again."

  • "And then in May, and I never thought this possible in my life, we also had to escape from Zittau - on May 7. But nobody knew yet that the war would end on May 8. On May 7, all those roadblocks and anti-tank barriers suddenly closed, and then it was said that Zittau would be fortified, and all the children and women had to leave Zittau, to the mountains, and take care of themselves where they would end up. All I know is that my father, out of great concern for his family and because he somehow sensed that the situation was coming, arranged for us to stay in the former Sudetenland with a former business friend, also a Sudeten German. He said that if it was necessary to get the family to safety... They had their own house, so we had a destination we could go to. And then we stayed quite a long time in a little town across the border. Although the border wasn't there then. Just in the Sudetenland."

  • "Apart from my studies, I have lived in Zittau all my life, so I am a Zittau citizen. But that's not entirely true, and since this film is also being shown in the Czech Republic, I would like to say that I have a mother who was born in Liberec and was a Sudeten German. And speaking of mother tongue, I am also a bit of a Sudeten German. So when I traveled to Reichenberg in the first period, you still had to go through customs here in Zittau. There were still border checks. And suitcases had to be opened and looked at and so on. German was spoken in the town, but there were also quite a few Germans who spoke Czech, my aunt, my mother's half-sister, had a small shop in Liberec and both Germans and Czechs came there and she could speak both languages well. And I also had the feeling that they lived well together, that was the norm. There are always people who are dissatisfied, but it wasn't that you could say that relations between Germans and Czechs were bad."

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Relations between Germans and Czechs before World War II were not bad

Marianne Kreul in 2024
Marianne Kreul in 2024
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Marianne Kreul was born on 23 December 1927 in the Lusatian town of Zittau, her mother was a Sudeten German from Liberec. Her life story is also the story of the German-Czech border and its changing forms during the 20th century. Marianne Kreul remembers pre-war conditions, the occupation of the Sudetenland by Hitler‘s Germany and the war, at the end of which she and her mother had to flee because the Nazis declared the industrial town of Zittau a fortress that must not be surrendered to the advancing Red Army. They found refuge on Czech territory in the then Sudetenland. Marianne Kreul also experienced post-war poverty, the expulsion of the German population from Poland and Czechoslovakia, which also affected her relatives, and the establishment of the German Democratic Republic on the basis of the Soviet occupation zone of Germany. While Zittau and Liberec were separated by an impenetrable border with barbed wire for 15 years after the war, Marianne studied teaching in the completely bombed-out Dresden. However, her Czech roots still awakened her interest in the Czech Republic, where she regularly went on holiday. She was also at Máchovo jezero in Doksy on August 21, 1968, when the invasion of Czechoslovakia by „brotherly“ troops took place. The invasion came, among other things, from the GDR, Marianne‘s homeland, across the German-Czech border.