Feručo Šestan

-".. right to this.. hill, and from there we realy saw the bay of Trieste, we could see it, not just down, but I mean, the pier and there by .. these who… what comes next, you know. As need to look like this, wright. And .. then we look around this .. border, as we think it is a border …. Continue right away, and came at .. 5 o clock up there in Kozina and already at 8 o clock we have been at the border. - You were walking from railway station up to hill? - Yes, yes up hill and then down into the valley and up back again to to … slowly to the hill. - To the hill from where you could see Trieste? - Yes. But from the other .. I mean the other hill was lower, far lower .. a small hill, so here we calculate there is this border and it was it. - Can you once again tell us how .. this story 15 minutes ago… - Yes, yes, yes.. Ok, when went up it was dark, normally, we could only se.. see this… horizont …the hill is not so high and than we saw everything, it was a little … and run into a guard with.. with a dog so ..we jumped back a little to wait ..dog start to bark, but this …the guard tried to calm him down. We lie down for an hour and…thinking guard has left and .. start … raised up and continue. But after two steps away here he go again. In front of us. Like a ghost. And dog start to bark very loud. “Ooo”, I said, now we won´t be able to escape. But everything was well for us, a guard calm the dog down, but I tell you we already decided to co… to come back as we saw it is .. it is too risky, than we withdrew for about 200-300 meters down, not all downhill but a small valley and there decide to spend the night, on the lop as there was … snow up there. So we… shake it a little. We slept on it. And in the morning.. we saw … we heard these …these sounds, and said: “ now we are .. we are surrounded! Sent us again.” Wen day light came, we noticed rabbits eating clover. After, we thinking what to do next, how, now is a day time, what if they.. there on a meadow they will notice us. But, whatever, I said: ”Lets go! What do we wait for?” We will go up … and went on … like this, till.. and there is a small peak, and a valley again, all of this is a peak .. peak of the hill. When came up, we notice a barrack, here … here where the border is. A crossing area. The border. And here .. but where is the border? It has to be here. So now there has to be some mark for a border. Maybe is … we were thinking naively … didn´t came up with anything conclusion, where is and what is.. but decide to run downhill only, well … told him:”Watch not to run into a wire, to get hurt.” So it was like that. Nothing happened to us. But we crossed one, like deserted .. path and .. border … guards and so …this path was their. When came down, ask this peasant who cultivate carrot did we passed the border and then he told us everything, it was true all, all what we was thinking how it should be. Then peasant said if we want to register to the police it is here close by."

- "For me it was easy decision.. I saw that … here in … Pazin, during my practise that I have … I have .. a very bad practise. Education in school was good … but, let say, when I finished school, I didn´t have any practise with my occupation. If a man don´t have .. don´t have conditions to educate more, to … to learn, improve, than he stay on …. a low level. Already in 2nd grade was thinking..and saw it coming, so told myself: only for my parents I will finish this school but after I will go away… as far as I can. Remember when … when we .. when my father sow grain and I helped him with chop up the soil. Then he said to me:”Now”, said,” when spring come”, “when you are 18”, …”we will by you … we will give you a motor bike from your older brother, and to him we will by a new one.” I told him, just said: “If I have a motor bike, I will by it myself”. My father ask like: “What?” “Why?” then I answer:”I won´t be here anymore, will not live here.” Father was standing there like I knock him, as he knew me, he knew when I say something there won´t be other way, he knew I will do it, go away. But it was.. in .. October, at the end of the month, but these.. plan I had in my mind.. for more.. than year. After, a few of us .. talked about it, how to arrange this escape. So four of us decided to go, and two more.. two of them I asked they refuse to do it. Rejected. People in my age. So , .. say it was in fall, and on 4th … December I escape. - It was in sixty..? - In 1964."