André Lenard

* 1940

  • "I was interested, safely, because when I used to go to Czechoslovakia, one time when I was coming out of some PeZetka (Foreign trade enterprise) , I don't remember the name, some two gentlemen waited for me. One introduced himself as a major and the other was a lieutenant at the time, saying that they wanted to talk to me. I didn't know any military or company secrets, so I said, 'Why not?' The major, whose name I don't remember, was well educated, spoke good French, and we talked about the economy. I was giving advice, I don't know if it was socialist advice, like acceptable advice, and I said, 'You Czechs pay a much higher price for loans than the Hungarians. And the Hungarians are two or three times more indebted than the Czechoslovak Republic. You should make, for example, like the Hungarians do, a business card, pick a banker who can talk, and just socialize with Western bankers.' This Hungarian, whose name I didn't know, was friends with Rockefeller and so on. And that helps tremendously. Well, I told him secrets like that, which was my invention." (And how did that go?) "It ended up being terribly unpleasant, because every time I came to that Intercontinental, the next day the phone call was, 'We want to talk to you.' And it ended up being, this was before the Velvet Revolution, just before the Velvet Revolution. That's when the major was no longer, that lieutenant who called himself Beneš became a major, and he was a lout, in a different way. I could stand a major. He said, 'Mr. Lenard, we've had enough, it's time you did something for us. A Czechoslovak colony in Prague.' I don't know any Czech, not even now. And I said, 'Sorry, that's a shame, because they won't give me a visa anymore and I won't be able to come to Eastern Europe, including Czechoslovakia.' Thank God, the Velvet Revolution came in November. In January of '90, I flew back, and the phone rings again, and again Mr. Beneš wants to see me. I say to him, ‘Mr. Beneš, don’t you read the newspapers? Don’t you watch TV?’ And he says, ‘Sorry to bother you. I just wanted to ask if you have any job opportunities for me.’"

  • "We lived, initially we were, I would say, among almost the first companies to integrate as a representative office in Moscow. The bank then couldn't be accredited as a bank, so the bank set up a trading company and we were accredited as a trading company. Banks were after that. So it was terribly interesting at first because we had a quasi-monopoly there too. I represented not only the French industry, but Bank of America, Univer and companies like that, so it was awfully interesting. I had a secretary, who I think was at least a KGB captain, and a chauffeur, who was lower down the ladder. They were both nice, intelligent, but as I said, 'The Russian character is like Saša always said.' I brought him presents and he liked me and I liked him, actually. But if I did anything, he would turn me in and bring me oranges to prison because he liked me. That's the Russian character. We are, I mean, we French, we either like or we don't like. The Czechs are a bit like that too, I think. But in Russia, you can like somebody and you can just turn him in because he did something anti-state and he swore to the KGB that he had to turn it in."

  • "I remember well, and that was actually by accident, because I was a little bit post-marriage at the time and we went out because we were young, to restaurants and bars and dances. I came home around midnight with my wife and I turned on the radio and I heard a report about dances in Prague. And I thought, 'That's strange that they're remembering World War II now.' It didn't got into my head at all. Well, then I listened to it and I realized that the Russians, in a friendly way, had come to liberate us, and then, just at that time, the poor Czechs who were on vacation in France, they couldn't come back because the border was closed, so I saw a couple there. They had a Czechoslovak flag painted on the sidewalk, the boy was playing the guitar, the girl was singing Czech songs, so I gave them something and invited them to dinner. For years after that I was involved in hotel financing here. The translator comes up to me and 'Don't you remember me?' For me, an older lady. And that was the girl who sang there."

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I got Czech citizenship, so I feel at home here

Period photo, André Lenard in 1958
Period photo, André Lenard in 1958
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André Lenard was born on 21 February 1940 in Paris. His mother was Czech Helena Lenard from the famous Vizovice family of slivovitz producer Rudolf Jelinek and his father was Polish doctor of economics Roman Lenard, who died at the very end of the war. One of the first repatriation trains took André and his mother back to Vizovice in October 1945, where André started first grade. Although he quickly learned Czech, made friends and got used to his new surroundings, he and his mother moved again in 1949. Jelinek‘s distillery was nationalized and they had to move out of the apartment above the factory. Mum was born and lived her young years in Bratislava, so they went there. André graduated from high school in Bratislava and moved to Paris. He had to learn French again, find his place in a new environment and start working. After some vicissitudes, he managed to join the prestigious French bank Paribas, and since he spoke several foreign languages, his entire professional life as a banker was devoted to contacts with Eastern European countries. In the 1970s he worked in Moscow, returning after three years to represent various international banking houses. In later years, when he was already a freelancer, he was involved in financing hotels in Prague and Bratislava. In 2023 he lived alternately in France and Prague. In March of the same year he obtained Czech citizenship.