JUDr. Alexander Bory

"I went to Ciklamini saying, 'Look, Lorenc has ordered to have everything shredded, that the services have [to stop everything?].' I didn't stop it, on my own responsibility, I kind of delegated myself to the chief position. Because I had the highest rank in that radio intelligence, I was the head of analytics, and no one else was there. I thought, we can´t get disposed of this, so I went to the [Ministry of the] Interior, everywhere, and got to Ciklamini. I showed him some documents, and he said, 'You're kidding me!' Because he was reading the faxes of [German] Foreign Minister [Hans-Dietrich] Genscher. And how come this can be obtained? Those people had no idea at all, they had been off the mark since 1968. I'll tell you this way - there hadn´t been such situation at all that it would possibly turn around. They still, the majority of people, they hoped the communists would stay here. And to the intelligence service and bezond that, the former expelled communists came back everywhere, no one else got there. And they began to plot those positions among themselves, under the illusion that it would keep on working that way. And then General Procházka came, he was independent, and he started cleaning it. But it wasn't ... there were terrible Stables of Augeas. And I was in touch with him at the time, I have the documents here as I was obliged to report on the radio intelligence service where I had worked. That is, the characterization of the people and why it should be maintained. "

"I made up such an action with General Procházka that we could build a workplace pointed against Russia in Košice. Because it was clear that in Užhorod, there was the retransmission tower, where the things were. But it was necessary to go to the place and find out which way the aerials were directed, what kind of, and so on. So we came up with an espionage operation, me and a colleague. Everything was planned, legalized, we were going there, [we knew] that there was Staropramen, we had such a big Žiguli car, I was driving. Just a funny detail, I got the driver's license at forty-two, I hadn't driven any car until then. " " And Užhorod, are we talking about, say, 1996? "-" No, that was in 1991. Which was insane. Because I said: we have the technology, we can do it, we could eavesdrop on Russian telecommunications in Košice or even closer to the border, it was ok. So the whole action was prepared in detail, I had with me the equipment, a camera, everything. And my colleague and I crossed the border, we entered the city, we were approaching the tower somehow, and some sixth sense told me it was wrong. You feel it somewhere here. And I say, 'Look, we're being watched, someone is tailing us, it's messed up, the action.' So I couldn't even pull out a camera. And I say, 'Hey, look, we have to get away, because if they catch us here it´s the end.' I was driving, and to see if I was really being watched, I was driving - imagine the situation, you're driving down the main road, it was a straight road - and suddenly a helicopter appeared above us. I said, 'The Russians have already deployed a helicopter, so it's blown!' So I deliberately drove into a kind of a quarry. And they, they didn't realize, so they showed up right behind me. That´s how we found out they had been watching me. So we left, we returned home across the border. I drove through Hungary all night, we stopped at my relative in Papa, before Austria, because I had passports, everything. And I came home, we wrote a report, it was in May, and I was put off duty. "

"Firstly, it was taught or lectured how the information was obtained. You have one and the other aerial, there is a bundle of information between them. And then it was searched, it had side lobes, it was radiating something and the signal could be picked up somewhere, it could be found by radio. That's why the GDR was here, because it radiated here from Germany and we were able to make recordings of it. Even at that time, the Germans were able to wiretap on every radio telephone in Germany and record it when we knew the number. So they recorded, for example, it was a huge affair with those wiretaps of Strauss, and it all was made at us. They recorded the driver's calls and then leaked it through journalists, saying it was happening in Germany, but it was made here. And the analyst monitors how, for example, German intelligence works, and they already had a voice database of BND [Bundesnachrichtendienst] employees. So when someone called, they knew that this and that colonel was talking then. So they had a filing room, and when I came to the filing room, I was completely horrified. I say, all this has already come out about those people. And then the revolution came, and I have these fragments of information that the first what the Americans did was that they wanted to get all the information from the GDR. And they were supposed to look for me here and someone deliberately kept secret where the Americans would find me. So I kind of dropped out of the game and I know who did it. He worked with the Russians. I was generally known, because everyone got a bit dirty, because everyone was in Russia for training and had to sign something, and I have never signed such a commitment anywhere in my life, although I was in the service. "